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maanantai 14. joulukuuta 2009

ERIK HAULA AND TOMMI KIVISTÖ"THE FINNISH NEXT ICE HOCKEY STARS"

A Scout's Life: Drafting in the late rounds

Erik Haula was selected 182nd overall by the Minnesota Wild at the 2009 draft.  (Photo by Andre Ringuette/NHLI via Getty Images)

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Erik Haula was selected 182nd overall by the Minnesota Wild at the 2009 draft.



“All those guys in the last round have something going for them, but then there’s a lot missing. And you never know which of them is going to put it all together.” – Eastern Conference amateur scout.

MONTREAL - When it comes to Day 2 of the draft, the bleachers thin out, interest in fandom wanes and the likelihood any of the picks surface again in an NHL uniform are thin and slim.

But don’t call these picks throw-aways. One look at a few late-round gems – Jonathan Ericsson, Pavel Datsyuk – and you can see why these picks can end up being very valuable.

“Really almost every pick up there has a chance,” said one amateur scout. “If a player gets picked someone has seen something special in them and are picking them for a reason.”

In the first round, each NHL team’s draft list is different as views and final evaluations of players vary from one team to another. As the selection process moves into the second, third, fourth round and beyond, the disparities become greater and some scouting staffs might snap up a kid another team can only scratch their heads about.

“One team might pick a kid in the fourth round and we had him ranked in the sixth round, but obviously that other team saw something in him,” one scout explained.

And it’s not easy. If you think the New York Islanders had a tough decision to make between John Tavares, Victor Hedman and Matt Duchene, sifting through all the players further down depth charts – some from remote areas – is a difficult task to do.

It’s tough to gauge if a player you have ranked to go in one round will be picked up by another team earlier, or if he will go undrafted altogether. For instance, Tomas Tatar, a world junior star for Slovakia went 60th overall to the draft-savvy Red Wings – not a huge drop to many – but one scout mentioned Tatar was ranked among their first-rounders.

“We picked some players we didn’t think were going to be there when we did,” one scout said. “Those last picks are a very weird deal. You work all year and you see all these kids and when you make your list at the end as a group…there are 70 kids who we knew of that got picked, but they didn’t make our final list at all because there was something we didn’t like.

“And there’s probably 20 kids still on our list who weren’t picked at all, but are too young to be free agents, so we’ll wait until next year.”

That’ll give everyone one more year to watch those kids and see if their game improves, because if it stagnates or erodes, obviously that player wouldn’t be worth picking even a year from now.

There are too many players for scouts to watch to be able to see each of them enough times to formulate a proper analysis, so it’s a challenge to pare down who needs to be seen, who has that special potential and which players you shouldn’t commit too much time to.

The final few rounds of the draft make it clearer as to what other teams see in a player and the ones who had their name called will be watched a little closer by area scouts next season.

“Especially the ones you’re not sure of that you thought maybe if there were nine rounds in the draft you might get him, but someone else picks him in the sixth round,” said one scout. “You think ‘ya, well, obviously I’m thinking along the same lines, but he had him ranked higher.’ ”

As far as surprises go, one scout who focuses mainly on the U.S. side thought Erik Haula would have gone much sooner than he did at 182nd overall. An average-sized player at 5-foot-11, 170 pounds (a nice frame to grow into) Haula racked up 24 goals and 79 points in 49 games at Shattuck-St. Mary’s prep school.

Another late-rounder who was a bit of a shock to some scouts was Tommi Kivisto, a 6-foot-1 Finnish kid playing with the Red Deer Rebels of the Western League, who scored 22 points in 65 games as a defenseman.

Both of those players were seventh-rounders and both are worth keeping an eye on. The only reason the surprised scouts’ teams didn’t take them was because they either didn’t have a selection then or because there was at least one player they had ranked higher still available when their pick did roll around.

Time will tell how many of these guys make it and how many of this year’s undrafted gems establish themselves next year and, perhaps, turn themselves into early-round players in 2010.

The final entry of A Scout's Life will appear next week, July 9.

TONI RAJALA AND ERIK HAULA"THE FINNISH NEXT STARS"

Toni Rajala Interview at World U-18 Championships

Bwa-lg_tiny by The Falconer on Apr 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT Comment 0 comments

Toni Rajala was named one of the two "players of the game" after Team Finland's opening day win over Team Russia. Rajala posted four points (2 goals and 2 assists). What impressed me most was his ability to find open ice and get free of Russian defenders.

I had the opportunity to speak to Rajala after the contest. His teammate Erik Haula provided some translation help (Haula is attending Shattuck-St. Marys in the USA and he speaks English like a native).

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BWA: You were named best player of the game. Is this a perfect start for you?

Rajala: Yes, it was perfect. We have a very good [start as a] team, we were skating hard--and our goalkeeper was good.

BWA: It seemed that the physical play got things. It seemed that there were some questionable hits?

Rajala (translated by Haula): He thinks that it was really important that it became a physical game. That got us into the game early. They took those penalties at the start and it got us going. We had some guys who were a little bit nervous, but it got better in the end.

BWA: This year you played 21 games in the top Finnish league. Did your coach there give you any special team responsibilities on the power play or penalty kill?

Rajala: Yes, the first ten games I didn't play on the power play, but then I played much more on the power play. I was given more responsibility.

BWA: For fans who have never seen you play, can you compare your style to a Finnish NHLer or any NHL player?

Rajala: Maybe like Marian Gaborik or Henrik Zetterberg?

BWA: You played with an American Troy Milam, did he give you any hints about America? [Troy Milam played for the Thrashers ECHL affiliate the Gwinnett Gladiators.]

Rajala: (laughs) Yes. he's a good guy, he taught me a lot about English and America.

BWA: Do they still call him "Milo"

Rajala: No, he is "Troy" He is very funny, a good team player.

BWA: Have any NHL teams interviewed you so far?

Rajala: No, not so far.

BWA: Do you plan to come over for the NHL draft this summer?

Rajala: Yes, I think so.

BWA: Are you excited to come over and play in North America?

Rajala: I don't know yet.

BWA: Was it special to beat Russia?

Rajala: Yes, very much. Russia is next door.

BWA: Which is better beating Sweden or Russia.

Rajala and Haula: Sweden! (no hesitation)

Haula: We have had wars with Russia.

Hockeys Future Reporter: Team Sweden was clapping when you scored against Russia.

Rajala and Haula: Wow! (both seemed surprised by this)

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ERIK HAULA"THE NEXT FINNISH STAR"


  • Name: Erik Haula
  • Position: LW
  • Shoots: Left
  • Height: 5-11
  • Weight: 170 lbs
  • Birthdate: 1991-03-23
  • Eligible for Draft: 2009
  • Drafted: 2009
  • Hometown: Pori, Finland
  • Acquired: 7th round, 2009 by MIN
  • Playing In: Junior

Erik Haula

Prospect Grade: 7.0 D (About Prospect Grades)



History

2007-08: Put up decent numbers, playing in 40 games where he racked up 22 points in the U20 league for Assat. He also represented Team Finland at the 2008 U18 tournament, where he tallied a goal and three assists in six games.

2008-09: With Shattuck St. Mary's, he racked up 22 goals and 49 assists. Roomed with Swede Alexander Fallstrom.

Haula speaks nearly flawless English. His father used to coach American football in Finland, and he had Americans staying in his house growing up who taught him English. Also speaks Swedish.

HF's Interview with Haula from the 2009 U18s.

Talent Analysis

Haula is an incredible passer and has good speed to go along with it. He's only 5'11 though and quite light yet. Excellent character.

Future

Committed to playing for the University of Minnesota in 2010, but will spend a year in the USHL first.

Stats

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Profile Last Updated: August, 13th 2009



ERIK HAULA"THE NEXT FINNISH STAR"

Erik Haula

Wikipedia

Loikkaa: valikkoon, hakuun
Erik Haula
Pelipaikka laitahyökkääjä
Maila vasen
Pituus 178 cm
Paino 74 kg
USHL-seura Omaha Lancers
Aik. seurat Shattuck St. Mary's (USHS)
Ässät (A-jun/B-jun)
Kansalaisuus Flag of Finland.svg Suomi
Syntymäaika 23. maaliskuuta 1991 (ikä 18),
Pori
NHL-varaus 182. varaus, 2009
Minnesota Wild
Pääsarjaura 2009–
Mitalit
Maa: Flag of Finland.svg Suomi
Miesten jääkiekko
Alle 18-v. MM-kilpailut
Pronssia Pronssia Yhdysvallat 2009 jääkiekko

Erik Haula (s. 23. maaliskuuta 1991, Pori) on suomalainen jääkiekkoilija, joka pelaa USHL:n Omaha Lancersissa.

Kaudella 2007–08 Haula teki 40 pelissä 22 pistettä Ässien A-nuorten joukkueessa, jossa voitti SM-hopeaa. Kaudella 2008–09 hän pelasi Shattuck St. Mary's -seurassa, jossa hän teki 22 maalia ja 49 syöttöä.[1]

Haula edusti Suomen jääkiekkomaajoukkuetta ensimmäisen kerran vuonna 2007 World U-17 Hockey Challenge -turnauksessa.[2] Haula oli Suomen tehokkain pistemies heti tähdistökentälliseen päässeen Toni Rajalan jälkeen keräten kymmenen tehopistettä. Suomi sijoittui turnauksessa kuudenneksi hävittyään Venäjälle paikasta viidennestä sijasta.[3]

Haula edusti Suomea myös alle 18-vuotiaiden turnauksessa vuonna 2008.[4] Turnauksessa Haula keräsi neljä tehopistettä.[5] Vuonna 2009 Haula edustaa Suomea samassa turnauksessa.[6] Suomi voitti turnauksessa pronssia.


Tilastot

Runkosarja Pudotuspelit
Kausi Joukkue Liiga O M S Pist. RM O M S Pist. RM
2006-07 Ässät B-jr 29 19 24 43 24 - - - - -
2007-08 Ässät B-jr 5 5 3 8 14 - - - - -

Ässät A-jr 40 7 15 22 26 12 2 0 2 4
2008-09 Shattuck St. Mary's USHS 53 26 58 84 46